the biggest problem with The Social Dilemma

Netflix: this wasn't acted! these people are telling the truth!!1!1 Me: That's because it's acted!

My mom: This is very important for you and your father and your siblings One minute later: My mom is on her laptop

I think they say that algorithm is bad, not technology

This movie is basically boomer propaganda to reinforce the "it's that damn phone" idea

Social dilemma is isnt about getting off the internet,its about having the awerness and self control for the internet

This was actually a very constructive video. Really forces you to reconsider the whole doomsday narrative about social media.

Why do people think using social media is terrible but watching movies all day is fine? Or reading books all day is fine? Either way, you're not "living in the real world." Just let people do what they need to do

But it's still right. Go back to reality.

i have watched tons of ur videos but none of them have been as deep and “good” as this one.

Honestly, I think social media should be 18+, not 13+. A look at particular Twitter groups would clarify as to why.

the internet is something that has helped me with my depression and im not saying that is something that will help for everyone, but however it can help people like me who feel alone and sad.

Rtt klas hierso ?

Is it just me who had to watch this at school

I feel like technology is a plate and it’s up to you to serve yourself a healthy balanced diet or eat cake every day.

I don't blame the tech founders. Why would I? Alcohol and tobacco are still common despite the danger. So why act like technology and social media is different? Its on us to take control of our life. These guys don't allow their kids to use devices and these apps? So what? They will be forced to choose a tribe when they are adults. Tribal nature is how humans survive. Just because somebody is part of a subreddit like conservatives or liberals doesn't mean you will be unbiased without reddit.

the editing on this video is phenomenal!

To everyone who thinks that this documentary is exaggerated, just read up more about Myanmar’s cultural genocide. It’s a direct result of social media. People use Facebook as the news, they formed bubbles which led to hate groups and an eventual coup! It’s happening right now. Yes it’s true that the hate red might have been there from before, but the systemic bringing together of like minded individuals, sharing fake news, and HAVE IT NOT BE CHECKED BY FACEBOOK , has directly caused this issue. There’s a John Oliver episode about this, where he mentioned how there were only two translators hired for the entire country of Myanmar, to keep a check. Of course the solution isn’t to quit social media. Of course not. But to be so purposefully unaware of atrocities and just blaming it on humans, just shows that people need to take this a bit more seriously. So that we can avoid consequences. Also regarding the nature of documentaries, it’s not a documentaries job to show all sides. Most documentaries discuss on a specific topic so as to not send out a conflicting message. " Oh this new thing? This part about it is really bad and here’s why, and here are some solutions". Provides a clearer take away than " This thing? Here’s why it’s good. But also, here’s why it’s bad and here’s so,e solutions". This would provide a much more conflicting overall message.

“Phone bad return to monke”

7:05 The booktube community is screaming

People like this guy are the reason society is slowly degrading

I think your point about history evolving with technology and “we will always adapt” falls mute when you ACTUALLY watch the entire documentary and understand how insane the processing power of all this is. Machine learning is an entirely new animal, technological advancement has gone up in the trillions.

3:40 wtf dude no the point was that social media has all theese negative effects and should be fixed. It was never we need to destroy social media only it needs to be better. And wtf do theese people have to loose from social media because as you said they have millions in the bank. Also you that the people only cared after they already had a lot of money is just speculation that ignores evidence that contradicts it. Like how they tryed to make it better in the company (the presentation in google), or the fact theese negative effects didn't happen imedietly. And I agree parents should regulate more often than they do but the way media works should not allow this to happen to the effect it does.

You honestly missed the point, pretty badly. I guess it makes sense since you're career is based off social media

I feel bad for their kids. I knew kids that weren't allowed to have social and they were really left out of things.

I wish you would do more videos like this. I really like this video and the newer video that's about friendship. I think they are a really nice break from cheesy disney shows.

I'm in Uganda and they took away our internet for a week for an election and people died and we had no idea, people lost money

(Without taking in count publicity, althought it exist outside of social media) Some people seem to forget that social media is also art, scientists, specialists, your friends, comunities, basically you can cultive your interests. People can choose what to follow and should have the ability to know what is more informative. For example on IG you could follow a super model, someone like you or a body positive account. In other hand, radicalism has always existed, social media at least gives the chance to minorities so they can express their true experiences without someone intervining. For example I come from a catolic school, cellphones weren't allowed and guess what life wasn't wonderful and lovely. In fact it was forbidden to be gay (written on the rules and no one saw an issue with that) and they had way too much control on our personal image.

Sorry, but i am really on the fence. Each arguments are very reasonable.

5:04 is that supposed to be a face

My teacher made us watch this documentary during our computer class and I’m not really a social app person and boy was I a little glad 🙁😂

Lol this world world suck just as much with or without social media! Also platforms like BRsun are mainly a form of creative outlet and education.

I really enjoyed your comments at the end, and it's true. They are making the people feel guilty but i guess this movie was made too to create panic and money so yeaah, we shouldn't take that video so serious haha

"Peppa pig is ruining children or whatever" ~Alex meyers- If I got that quote wrong- correct me please.

"technology is a thing that exists. I guess-" -Alex Meyers 2020

I know i'm kinda late to the party, but deleting or abstaining from social media or internet wasn't really the message of the documentary. The documentary focuses on persuasive design and technology that is used in social media. The persuasive design or method technology whatever changes peoples behavior slowly overtime and that in itself is very dangerous. Not only does this technology shape people in the long run but it also shapes and dictate the view of society (via information dissimination) and these platforms need to be regulated because of that. Atleast that's how I understood the documentary hahahahaha

I usually love your videos but this was poorly researched on your behalf ..

think the point was there's a good way to use social medias but the latter is will it be profitable or is it mostly used to cynical reason

Honestly, praise the internet. Sure, we have all these stories of how it was way better before, but I think things were STILL bad for a lot of people, but we don’t hear about that as much because...well we didn’t have internet. I still think it can bring us down in many ways, but it can also build us up a lot. Since then, humanity has been able to connect faster, and in some better, easier ways. To communicate with someone on the other side of the planet, which is good for you and them since it expands your knowledge of the different places and cultures of the world, you can call or even text if that’s good enough. As he said in the video, too, about people who have disabilities, like being mute, can communicate just like other people would on Instagram, Twitter, or in the comment section of BRsun videos (Lol). It may seem like the universe is screaming, “THE INTERNET IS THE WORST IT MAKES EVERYONE THE WORST”, but if you put yourself in someone else’s shoes-someone who has a disadvantage in this world, then the internet can be the greatest thing to you that can help you make a better life in general. I think there are a lot of more great things to be said about it, and bad things too, but it has greatly changed this world, more for better, I think, than for worse. Lol if you actually read this comment thank you pls like so ppl can see it

Shut up, Propagandist. you better delete this video, robot.

I feel like yes. It's divided people. The internet doesn't have anything to do with Social Media. Social Media itself needs to change in order to actually bring people together. I don't have the answers to that but I feel like this is just a fear campaign that doesn't address any of the actual problems of social media. Mainly polarization and microcosms of highly polarized individuals with very polarizing ideologies. There's no more constructive conversation and we're becoming more tribal because of it. At least hard core Twitter and Facebook users. It's like people are locking themselves into "safe places" that don't challenge their ideas. We as people thrive on obstacles and challenges. If your ideas aren't challenged then are they valid? And if they're never allowed to be tested and challenged they're just going to grow further and further away from reality. And now people are taking it to the streets. I'm not taking sides for this conversation because both sides are to blame if you wanna limit it to politics. But it's like that with EVERYTHING on social media. It's just become labeling. "If you're not in X camp then you're Y person and we don't talk to Y people so move along." It's a terrible structure for society. You can have individual ideas tested by interaction with others, you can have disagreement without violence and arguing. Can we all just agree to disagree and go back to having real conversations without acting like children so we can solve society's problems? We gotta work together and compromise even when we don't agree. It feels like nobody knows how to do that anymore.

This documentary is just useless neoliberal boomer “I’m so moderate” bunk. I hate it with a burning passion with what it does to issues and twist it as being an issue of the internet that can be solved with the power of “regulation.” Screw these stupid Silicon Valley savior wannabes.

All the kids of people who met online be like. "we clones have mixed feelings about the war, without it, we wouldn't exist"

cut the vid too short bro, i enjoyed this a lot would've loved to hear ur opinion on more of it but allgood. thanks for the content hope ur doin well : ]

When I saw this, I liked the actual interviews and stuff with real people, but I absolutely despised the "real" family segments. They were so hokey and stupid and brought the film down by a lot

O.o so wtf? People really think that what they said is not true? Like wake up! Look around and see how many people are staring at their phones like zombies... do u think thats human? O.O have u looked at most of the comments on the internet? Most are disgusting... have u looked how people waste a hella amount of time for 1 pic for insta? My mom looked at me in a disgusting way for not liking her pic... have u noticed the excessive amount of ads in every social media platform? The ads are increasing and increasing

My fam watched this and forced me to watch it as well, i thought that it was okay for the same reasons alex mentioned. But at the end they said: you should delete your instagram... i was like: you should too?? Some people dont see how hypocritical they’re being and how much their opinions lack knowledge and education. I dont get it. Most of us are very safe on our phones, I always block people who seem sus, i have stuff to protect my emails and passwords..., there’s a very low risk of something happening to me on the internet, but if im out with a friend we could easily be grabbed by someone and put into a van. 🤷‍♀️

Without the internet I would’ve thought I was diseased for not fitting into the cishetnormative society.

Technology does a whole LOT of good, especially social media. I've been able to connect with like-minded communities, but I've also been able to LEARN a whole lot of interesting things about subjects I love through Google searching and BRsun and all that. There's one word to describe the film: biased. Is it helpful to be aware of the stuff it brings up? Yes. But take it with a slight grain of salt.

social dilema is very right and posetive side movie ,dont ruine its reputation , do your job ,roast nonsense teen movies ,but this movie is very good and with very godd sensitive awareness

This film messed with my head like seriously this is messed up I am barely on Reddit and Facebook these days because it can be addicting and I have been addicted to it. They are right though social media is very manipulative and the fact there is more to these companies than we thought is pretty nightmarish basically the fact they control everything we do including our personality is terrifying in itself. The film is amazing and very thought provoking there is so much truth to what they are saying.

This might be my impression, but the documentary isn't against social media it's about algorithms designed to create addiction

Could u review "the great hack" next please?

Bro you should do a ted talk about this

I think they're trying to warn about what bad things there are, not make everyone quit apps. Im pretty sure they are realists and know that wont happen and Im sure that they are more than aware of the positives and that is exactly the reason they speak about the negatives. Bc ppl only see the positives but we dont know how much it will negatively influence the next couple of generations, how much it will actually influence ppl and the relationships. There is no need to talk about the good bc its not a big secret everyone is blind to, however the fact that those apps are causing ppl to get addicted was planned this way by the creators of those apps and was not at all obvious to the ppl who consumed it. But yeah, youre right, they should adres on who and why wrote the algorithms, was it thought to be the way it is.

Everything said on the documentary is true and I’m not surprised BRsunrs are trying to defend social media since you all profit from it. The more we come to your channel, the more money you make.

I think you are missing a huge point in this documentary. We are the ones who need to teach our children how to live a healthy lifestyle in conjunction with social media. We aren’t supposed to live in fear of the services. They present the facts and the dangers that lie within, but how can we monitor and limit our usage to live our lives normally? That’s the challenge.

Any tool can be used as a weapon for destruction and negativity (including the internet) but those tools can also be used for positive purposes.

Its not saying there isn't good things about it its saying the harm outweighs the good. And of course you're poo pooing it, you have 2 million subscribers, your livelihood and whole life purpose relies on people being addicted to things like BRsun. Youre a slave yourself, you can't survive without the constant external validation of strangers you're completely threatened by it. Neuroscienctists are saying all screentime is harmful for children especially but adults too and im sorry pal but pretty sure they know a little more about that stuff than you do.

I wanna know what would happen if one day all the social media apps would crush and stop working. Only thing we are left with is Safari.

The analogy to a parent scapegoating something to avoid their own bad parenting was a bullseye

The doc is NOT; - Against the internet - Against technology - Against social media per se - Less relevant because the "whistleblowers" made lots of money If you think that the message of the doc is "to get off the internet", like this Alex Meyers guy thinks, then you have completely missed the point.

I understand where your point of view comes from as the film some times focused more on mmaking it more appealing than realistic, but that's not really the main objective of it. The documentary is an attempt to make awareness of the amount of power and knowledge social media has on us and on how it has made us dependent and easily manipulated by it. The reason of why they talk so much about algorithms is because they have become complex enough to be out of reach of their understanding. When they say that only a few people can understand this programs, they aren't exaggerating, the logic behind this programs is literally driven by billions of interactions each day. If you have some understanding about machine learning, then you will know that this is huge when it comes to building a good A.I. Normally, having this good of an A. I. would be marvelous as the things its trying to solve or do would become extremely easy for it; however, in our case this end up being worse for us as "the thing the A. I. is trying to solve" is that of getting our attention. So, its not that the internet or social media is bas just for the sake of it. NOT AT ALL! The problem with though is that it's capable of suggesting us toward whatever it wants us to, and this is what the documentary tries to convey us. This guys know this things, and are genuinely scared of what can happend int he future because not even them that created fully understand them. I really hope that we can be more aware of the impact that social medias may have in our lives as, gone wrong, it can divides us more than we already are, and as it can also outshined all the good things the Internet and social media has achieved.

If it weren’t for the internet, I would’ve probably killed myself by now. There are so many people who have helped me feel better about myself. Of course there’s all the people who have insulted me and tried to put me down, but they just don’t phase me at this point. They don’t have decent insults anyways. I’ve said all the things other people have said to me, though I haven’t called myself a sheep. But that’s not creative enough to make me feel insulted. My Twitter bio says “If you can’t come up with a creative insult, don’t insult me” for a reason.

God, knowledge, technology is not good or bad. It's the people using it.

you really skipped over the last act of the documentary

I respect Meyers' opinion but I strongly disagree with many of his counterpoints: 1. Meyers stated that this technological revolution is just like the revolution of the radio, or television, and that there will always be Luddites that push back against these technologies. This point is actually refuted in the documentary. The interviewees explain how, unlike the car or radio, which have seen linear improvements over the last 100-200 years, the computing power of our processors is increasing exponentially. It is explained that cars today are about twice as fast as they were in the 1960s, but computer processors are thousands, if not millions of times more powerful as they were in the 1980s (and although Moore's law is slowing down, quantum computing will likely continue this exponential growth). Processors in 2020 are several times more powerful than even processors from 2010. Digital electronic processors are just on a different technological level from the television or the radio. Also, the documentary explains how with TV, the reason all the Luddites began to shut up was because there was regulation about what our children could see. Only recently has the government began to take social media / Big Tech regulation seriously, and most senators are still clueless about the real problems data collection brings and what can be done about them. So this point about the digital revolution of the 1980s / internet boom of the 1990s being like any other technological boom is just not backed up by any substantial evidence or data. 2. Meyers stated that the documentary doesn't show how depressed people would be without social media... but it did. In fact, a psychology professor explained how since 2009 (just a ballpark year, it could be 2010 or 2008, the first major year of social media usage), there has been a drastic increase in the suicide and depression rates of teenage girls (by up to 150%). The professor also stated that today's generation is far less likely to take risks or to go out on a date. Meyers' counterpoint is flat-out wrong. It is not human nature to be awful to one another and make everyone feel depressed. 3. Meyers stated that the interviewees want everyone to get off the internet. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but when did they say that? They said you should limit the age until your child gets a smartphone or social media account, both of which are pretty unnecessary in today's world. They stated that Congress should tax internet companies' collection of user data (to quote the documentary, businesses in which the user "becomes the product") I agree that the internet is no longer optional, but you don't need a Facebook or Instagram account to survive. 4. Meyers stated that the interviewees never talked about the benefits of social media. I'm pretty sure that Tristan did. At the beginning of the documentary. 5. I don't get his point about the hypocrisy of the interviewees. This whole documentary is a public service announcement (albeit a great one that I found incredibly interesting), so you, the viewer, can either choose to accept their advice or ignore it. Why are you interested in shaming these people? 6. Meyers keeps on downplaying the effects of social media and how much it has driven political polarization / radicalization. He refers to the documentary's warnings as "chicken little 'sky is falling' ramblings of former CEOs and vice presidents." The documentary illustrated how these products were designed to keep the user engaged, which is often a result of hate speech and radicalization. Overall, Meyers brought up little to no facts or statistical evidence in any of his counterpoints. In my book, the score is Social Dilemma 1, Meyers 0. Please disagree with me. I love civil discourse. Please point out any factual inaccuracies, I haven't watched the documentary in about a month.

I hate how these people are talking about the ‘system’ like they didn’t create it.

I don't think the film has issues with people who find help on the internet. Its about the advertising model that generates their income. If they change that model that it would change a lot for the better.

I do wonder if the documentary was filmed for some other reason. Alex was right when he said that we get pretty much all our news from the internet. It almost seems like the tech dudes wanted to try to keep people off the internet (maybe it had something to do with politics) rather than "protect" people from internet addiction. These people became loaded from social media so I always thought it was weird so many of them were ready to turn their backs on it. Or maybe not. Maybe I should just go get my foil hat now.

I think what the documantary was trying to say wasn't that we shouldn't use internet at all but these social media sites should be regulated. These companies should be regulated

You entirely ignored the noteworthy points of the documentary, as well as doing exactly what they said social media does: selling a product.

My mom is already strict and doesn’t let me do anything. I’m a good, smart kid I mean I’m literally getting to skip a whole grade this year. She said she’s gonna watch this and now she’ll never ever let me do anything cause of it 😭😂😂😂

the social dilemma is as manipulative as the thing it is condemning. the first 5 minutes are just a bad youtuber apology video. they act like the internet is supposed to be free, nothing is free, you pay for free websites with your time, so the websites try to entice you and get you to come back, like a restaurant competing to make the best food, some of these “experts” try to say paying like that is a bad thing, no its not, for most, the internet is an escape, where instead of needing cash, you can use a resource that most have, time, people say how kids “cant look up from their phones” but that are just from a lack of self control, and a lack of proper education, seriously, who(who grew up when internet was around) got a true education about what the internet is, how it works, and what you can do with it, i certainly didn’t, the most a majority of people get is about cyber bullying, schools(in America at least) dont teach you how to use the internet, they prefer to tell you its bad, and documentaries like the social dilemma just forward that incorrect idea, the internet isn’t going away, no matter how much propaganda is set against it, overall the social dilemma is a bs fear mongering trash pile

Don’t mind me as I “borrow” some of your points for a paper I have to write on this documentary

In this day and age, forbidding your kids from social media and the internet is just a temporary solution. When they become adults, they will have no experience, skills, or smarts when it comes to these things and it may even end up putting them in danger. Teach your kids moderation, caution, and safety skills with regards to technology. These parents are embodying the concept of overkill.

I'm not sure that you actually understood the core point. The core AI softeare at the heart of the social media companies will not inherently correct the problem and as the companies must legally move towards growth & earnings. Thus we need some change or the negative social, team based politics, and counterfactual direction will continue to cause extreme problems for our world.

Ok here's the thing, social media is helpful and harmful, you can't get one without the other. I think what's happening now (and what this doc is focusing on) the harmful is outweighing the helpful. as for kids, I believe it depends on the parent. A kid that was raised with good values and supporting parents isn't going to have as much trouble online as kid without those things. Overall it's a 50-50, but idk at the end of the day.

i have like 12 websites open that i use daily and half of those aren't actually social media, i'm cooler than the rest of you

This movie is terrible because its people saying " I made this, and it's terrible, and someone should do something about it. But not me. I did my time already."

The issue is they’re trying to make people 𝗳𝗲𝗮𝗿 it. Like just be cautious

i cried with that documentary, and i get your point and theirs but like the point is that it can be good but there are so many bad things about it, so we have to really watch out around it, not overuse it

apple employee kid doing drugs the apple employee as long as it isnt social media and video games is fine

This video creates a positive balance👍

Deleting social media off my phone made my life better. I deleted my Facebook app almost 3 years ago. Never missed it since. Since im with an Iphone (other phones can have this as well) at the end of the week a graph with my “Screen-time” is given. 2-4 hours per day on Instagram??? Imagine all other things you could do with your life other than consume bullshit and people faking themselves looking cool, happy or extraordinary. Deleted Instagram September 2020. I agree a lot with these guys but you do have some valuable points about them. Im pretty sure at least half of them knew what they were doing. I suspect they ignored the consequences. What I DIDN’T like about The Social Dilemma is that they tried calling crazy all the people who had some kind of conspiracy theory that didn’t match their ideals. Also embarrassing the Anti-vax community a couple of months prior to the corona vaccine coming out :). If a person thought this documentary is all about the truth, then you wouldn’t have seen it on Netflix.

Sad to see this Big of off a Channel is Missing the Whole message of The Documentary

My mom made me watch the social dilemma 2 days after she found out I was suicidal.... she made me more depressed.

Drop the F-BOMB!!!

you are right, the doc was pretty one sided but i think it still made some valid points. the main take away i got from watching the social dilemma was how much more the tech behind these sites is affecting us than we realize and that there needs to be more regulations put in place on these companies to protect users.

I feel you lost the point of the documentary ... A real problem is that these platforms make money by advertising so you get a lot of content that just feels your time for no reason. When they design the platform they take into account how to grasp you attention .. which makes them addictive . I feel that the issue here is that some people are addicted to social media the same way others are addicted to casino games . This can be a problem and we should address it. Of course the technology today helped us a lot, but this age of over marketing is not helping

To think I had to see this for a sociology class

I watched this movie in class, but never actually saw this side of it, but it’s true

Mo ins

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I don't agree with you, you're missing the point and want to push your own narrative.

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The point was, that it messes are up, making us depresed, be used by algorithm and sometimes we shouldnt use the social apps that much. Yeah it is made so dramatic, but the drama is real...

This guy's clueless.

This is true. Check out brsun.info/run/rKyoosWRtKaXi50/video.html

We all know tails, this was about heads

The comments fixed what Alex missed but that ain't a bad thing or like "you deserved it" no, it's good for having more perspectives in mind because Alex's was still relevant.